Advice please re: refusal to assess
Posted by
bumblebee
on 23rd June 2009
at 10:48
Hi Nicky,
I had the same problem with my daughter. The local autism support group we are part of is called MAGIC, which has links to Treehouse. On the MAGIC website, there are useful links to other sites which offer advice on a range of things. There is a link to a website called ipsea which is the Independant panel for special educational needs. This has advice and letter templates which you can fill in and send off to your local authority. Unfortunately the last resort is appealing at a SENDIST tribunal, but what I would suggest (and what worked for me) is to try and work with the local authority, but letting them know very politely that you know your's and your child's rights including the right to appeal to SENDIST.....may take some time looking through the sites, but well worth it! the link to the MAGIC site which has useful other links on is http://www.medway-magic.org/title.php?page_id=links&title_id=Links.
Good luck and keep in touch with your progress...
Claire
Posted by
NickyB
on 23rd June 2009
at 14:22
Thanks so much Claire. I'll have a look at the MAGIC site and then I'm going to call the LEA. I saw the SENCO earlier, and she said that she's absolutely furious and will help all she can. Thank goodness we have great support from school.
Thanks again
Nicky
Posted by
senin.org.uk
on 24th June 2009
at 13:31
Hi Nicky,
We have just been through this with the LA, including initiating an appeal to SENDIST, and at the last minute before the LA had to respond to the appeal, they backed down and are now undertaking an assessment (there may also have been a technical issue in play too!).
With regards to your comment on reports, you, as the parent should have received copies of all reports carried out by any professional, and also you should have had to have given written consent (usually signing a consent form) for any of the professionals (Ed Psych, Social Services, Speech & Language etc) to have assessed your child. If any of the assessments where carried out without your consent they cannot be used by the LA (there are some exceptional circumstances).
The school should also have copies of all the reports as well and what has been helpful for us is working closely with the school and sharing information, letters/reports, as and when either of us get them. This ensured we all had the same and correct information. Ask your SENCO, she sounds helpful.
If you go to appeal via SENDIST, then the LA HAVE to give you copies of all documents they will use as evidence, but a letter requesting copies should be sufficient. If they refuse, remind them of the freedom of information act and your right as parent to the information. Most LA's have a straight forward procedure for obtaining information under the act.
Hope that helps and good luck.
Richard.
Posted by
NickyB
on 24th June 2009
at 15:48
Thanks Richard. Not sure why, but the SENCO doesn't have copies of all the reports. I shall write to the LA and request copies.
Thanks everyone for your replies
Posted by
NickyB
on 3rd July 2009
at 09:15
Hello again
I received copies of all the reports from the LEA. I called them yesterday, and they said that they still hadn't received the SALT report or a behaviour report from school. The SENCO said she had sent them. I then had a call back about 10 minutes later and she said that she had found the reports and will be referring his case back to the panel. So now I'm hoping that they will change their minds - I have told them that I have the appeal papers ready, and I'm hoping that might encourage them to change their decision!!!
Another question now arises - as they are reconsidering his case, does that mean that I will have 2 months to appeal from the date of their new decision? Does anyone know??
Thanks for all your help
Nicky x
Posted by
Elena Goodrum
on 3rd July 2009
at 15:06
I'm really glad you came back and updated us, Nicky.
I'm not sure of the answer to your question but am sure someone will be able to help! : )
Posted by
senin.org.uk
on 8th July 2009
at 10:29
Hi Nicky,
Have the LEA told you the date of the next panel meeting?
Do you have it in writing that the LEA are reffering the case back to the Panel?
As they have already made a decision I would expect that the 2 months time limit is already running regardless.
Personally I would start your appeal now and ensure you dont miss any deadlines. You can stop your appeal at anytime, but after the 2 month deadline you have to wait 6 months and then start the whole process again.
The LEA receiving the appeal papers might also help focus the LEA and once the appeal is started you can submit new evidence, should it become available.
Also if the LEA back down once the appeal has been registered it is seen as a win for yourself and the LEA then must carry out the assessment within the same time limits as if the Tribunal had ruled in your favour.
I know it is alot of extra paperwork etc but having the peace of mind that you are covered if the LEA slip the timescales is worth it.
Richard
Posted by
NickyB
on 8th July 2009
at 14:25
Thanks again richard. I have received a letter from the LEA starting the process all over again. It states, as in the original letter, that they have 6 weeks to make their decision and then I can appeal if i'm not happy with the decision. I think I'll prepare the appeal papers anyway because, as you say, it can be stopped at any time and it might just 'focus' their minds !!!
Nicky x
Posted by
NickyB
on 12th August 2009
at 17:43
Oh dear :(
Had a call from the LEA today to say they have reconsidered and still don't feel he meets the criteria for statutory assessment. I was quite shocked as I really thought they would change their minds.
So now I'm going to arrange a meeting ASAP with SENCO and work out what to do next. I'm really quite scared about going to appeal, but I won't let them get away with it. I'm so, so angry.
I think the main problem we have is that he has been doing so well in recent weeks. It strikes me as being a little perverse that, if he has a bad start to the new year, it will probably help our case. In fact, after he was very nearly excluded a couple of months ago, the SENCO said it might have been a good thing (for the statement application) if he had been. There's something seriously wrong with that
Posted by
bumblebee
on 12th August 2009
at 19:45
HI Nicky......I was in exactly the same position as you and unfortunately as budgets are so tight, it is as if, we either need to know the law inside out or our children have to fail completely before overcomming these hurdles. The route I took at this point was to get an independent assessment by an Autism Specialist speech & Language therapist. She highlighted just how vulnerable my daughter was and how good at masking her problems she had become. The fact she was independent meant that no one could argue with her findings! There are also independant Ed Psych's too.....
I also understand that perverse feeling that if they don't progress too far, or if they have a bad few weeks then people will listen. But I think the important to remember that you are not alone in this minefield!!! The local authority have a role to protect their budgets and in many cases the first requests for an assessment are often turned down. However, it is also common for local authorities to change their minds at various stages of the processes. In my daughter's case the LA changed their mind to assess once I put in the appeal to SENDIST...(although I did present them at this point with the independant report) Is there anything on the IPSEA website about refusal to assess?
Keep us posted! And let us know if we can help with answering any questions.........Claire





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Posted by
NickyB
on 23rd June 2009
at 10:00
Hi all
I've just got a letter from the LA stating that they don't feel it's appropriate to carry out a statutory assessment. I'm a bit shocked as the SENCO was convinced it would be a formality. They have given me is a list of reports submitted to them, one of which is from the person who initially diagnosed him. She has given her advice, even though she has not seen him for over 2 years (he is now 6)!! I have tried to get her to see him again but she says they don't do follow up appoinments any more. This has made me wonder how she can give her advice about a child she hasn't seen for so long, as we all know that their needs change rapidly (as is the case for any child). There are also reports from the Ed Psych, and Social Services, neither of which I have ever had dealings with. Does anyone know if I am entitled to a copy of these reports?
Thanks in advance
Nicky x