August 2010 Member Q&A: parentingasdkid (Stephen)
Posted by
parentingasdkid
on 1st August 2010
at 00:46
Thanks Elena,
Hello everyone and i hope you enjoy my month's Q&A sessions. So let's get get going.
1. What's your story - how are you involved with autism?
Like a number of parents, i love watching my kids grow, develop and learn. In my case, James was developing in physiological terms but not behavioural, communication or socially. This was in comparison to his younger brother who was following a development line for his age. James was demonstrating unusual patterns of walking, sensory reactions and little speech - i thought he was just testing some boundary or being funny . I hadn't realised he'd been displaying Autism traits. This was over a period of appox. six months. My son at the age of four, was diagnosed with moderate ASD in January 2008
Since 2008 we had referrals, tests, interventions and family support. James is a happy little boy who is happily living his life unaware of his autism. I know one day he will start making his own comparisons and asking questions, quite rightly too.
My own personal involvement has been learning, undersanding and accepting James' autism. Also, I support our local Early Childhood Intervention, becoming involved with other parents and groups for promoting an wareness of Autism in our society.
2. How did you find Talk about Autism and how long have you been with us? (Ha! Guess I've already answered that one, Steve - feel free to expand)
You may have realised from Elena's comments i'm very new here, so new i'm just learning my way around with that new day at school feeling!
I'm a technical communicator which includes Information research, writing and usability testing. I was conducting some research on TreeHouse and found the 'talk about autism' communtiy. I don't normally go on many forums, however Talk about Autism drew my interest and here i'am!
3. What is your top tip to pass on to someone whose child has recently been diagnosed with autism?
I have a number of tips through a number of my experiences. Here are some i used when weaving my Autism maze:
#1 The child in front of you is still your child, don't let their Autism distract your love. As they grow, listen and learn from them.
#2 Don't take any testing questions from your multi-dicpilinary health team personal - they should be acting in you best interest.
#3 Don't have a 'knee jerk' reaction to any diagnosis, restrain yourself from 'Googling' until you have seen your GP. Your efforts are best spent on focusing on registering and applying for Early Childhood Intervention. I'm not saying don't research, but prioritise by focusing on practical support in the first instance.
#4 Document everthing, file all documents carefully into a protfolio. Why? this portfolio will be referred to on every application, consultation and official processess - so prepare! You'll be constantly asked for proof of tests etc. so make life easy by having everything in one place in chronological order .
#5 If you are ready for personal research start with facts from credible resources (Government sites, respected charities).
#6 Be wary of sites selling cures or materials which can cure or reduce symptoms. Most of these are 'Snake oil folk' who peddle their wares on the popularity of Autism alternative cures - buyer beware! Saying that there are legitmate alternate services - just be careful, check acreditation and qualifications of providers.
#8 Educate your family and extended family about autism. Encourage them to become involved. Remember, there may be lifestyle changes depending on the severity of your childs Autism. Having love and support from your family is something funding can't give or speech and OT people can't learn your child.
#9 If your child has regular speech or ocuppational therapy, participate, ask the therapist to help you learn the techniques. This ad hoc training can help when funding has gone or your budget is low.
4. What has been one of the most difficult encounters you've had with regard to autism?
There's been a few - probably dealing with a child pyschologist who wasn't able to connect with James or me is the most prominant.
For example, when testing my son, rather than lowering to his height by kneeling, she kept at her desk like a 1950's school teacher - peering at him. Thinking more, i can still visualise her hair tight in a bun with her glasses making more than a fashion statement - not very approachable. Reminicent of the Baron's child catcher (Robert Helpman) in chitty chitty bang bang, yep pretty scary!
This is why i have tip two in question 2, about not taking anything personal. It took all my strength and calmness for us completing a one visit test in four weeks.
To make matters worse, on receiving the final report i noticed typos and half way through the report James had become another kid, Dave or something. I can laugh now, but then when you knew the report is James' official diagnosis for accessing mainstream Government services, i had a little tension! Fortunately, i kept a cool head and resolves all issues - never to return.
For the record - all our multidicplinary health team have been fantastic, this was an isolated incident. Oops, that does sound like a Press release statement.
5. If you had to describe autism in no more than 3 words, what would they be?
A Translucent Mask
6. This our Summer question: Do you have any Summer holiday suggestions or advice for people with autism?
With a little preparation and local knowledge of the desitnation, Autism shouldn't hold you back from a terrific holiday. I guess this is subjective to the severity of your Autism and the type of holiday you wish to take. For example, a sensory issue with squeaky noise may rule out types of snow, therefore skiing.
If you are unsure of possible sensory issues or know you may have a few serious ones - Try taking mini breaks before planning a large holiday. This may help with unstanding what suits you in a cost effective way. Also minibreaks gives you a chance to take different friends, so enabling you to find the best person for your big trip.
Btw- If anyone needs info about Aus, let me know - before moving down here form the UK, i did a lot of travelling in a 1983 Mitsubishi sigma each year for three months between 1998 and 2006 with Tracy (who i married in 2001). I should (hopefully) be able to give some pointers.
Just for fun
I always worry when i see "just for fun" lol, i've just seen the questions - oooer look a bit difficult. So here goes.
1. What would your dream holiday be?
I have two, one with my family and one with a friend who is trying to get me going trekking in nepal. The family holiday would be for the kids, meaning all of us, lol. Big brash and fun - so probably disneyland in the US or Australia's goldcoast for seaworld, movieworld and waterparks.
As for me to travel a famous route by a historical explorer or visit the 8 wonder of the world!
2. If you got stranded on a desert island, what 3 things would you take?
A frizbee - is it a plate or a flying game?
A swiss army knife (red one) - always facinated by the quality of design. Especially the philips screw driver which can out last most other diy centre bought screw drivers. Also the philips seems to be designed for fitting perfectly screws on kids toy's battery compartments. The tools are useful, although i've tried chopping a tree down with a 3 inch saw.
A large sack of rice - as seen on masterchef - goes with most sea food!
3. Tell us about something that you really enjoy doing.
Apart from answering these questions! I suppose living in Australia, immersing myself in a beautiful country with such a diverse culture. Geographically, i always see australia, as countries within a country. We have the tropics, the alps, the desert - so different, but interesting. The flora and forna is amazing, set in such a beautiful backdrop of colour. The cities are vibrant and rich with many activities for all.
Finally - thanks for reading my answers, i hope you find them useful. Please feel free to comment.
Posted by
Leanne
on 1st August 2010
at 03:41
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your answers, I could particularly relate to your first tip. I feel very strongly that my boys are there own little personalities first with autism not defining who they are.
You mentioned that your son had very little speech.. what level of speech does he have now ??
Leanne - Community Champion
Posted by
amberlight
on 1st August 2010
at 13:09
Steve, really enjoyed reading that!
Ann - Community Champion (who's on the autism spectrum herself)
Posted by
parentingasdkid
on 1st August 2010
at 23:13
Hi Leanne,
Thanks for the post, like you, my boys have very strong personalities and very different ones. James is a typical little boy who just happens to have his ASD. He understands the world through his senses, i suppose we all do as well - just ours don't react as extreme.
There is so much i've learnt from observing James, he is the one with answers. I sometimes feel as people we miss so much non verbal information. I guess thats why i enjoy usability testing, as this involves observing how people approach tasks.
I smiled when i read your question about the amount of James speech. I remember in 2007 -08 teaching James words and speech. After James was diagnosed with his ASD, we continued learning him and his brother to talk in a similar way. I had more of a holistic approach by carrying James around a room and letting him touch objects, while encouraging him to repeat the word. I found James understood object labels more easily when listening, looking and touching together. Again a sensory thing. I would then use books as a support for this daily activity. After a while of learning, i recorded number of daily words he could remember over a period of a month. James on average would remember, out of 100 object words (i.e. curtain, sofa, bed ...etc.), approx. 25. The words were generally the same. However, on four days with no reason he would notch upto 75 plus words. I couldn't find a reason for this, only i realised he has an amazing memory for learning.
Moving up to more recent times i found he could recall his words but couldn't sentence build and talk with flow. James seems to talk emotionally, if happy, angry, sad etc. His sentences also have false positives, as he sometimes extends PECs (I have a few issues with PECs) sentences. For example, he uses the PECs i like - i don't ....then repeats and modifies.
In answer to your question, i guess James number of words averages five per sentence. I notice they are daily repetitive sentences in his routine. I find most days i have to think of making small challenges, rather than James initating talk. This may be the product of our daily lives are in a routine of kinder, shopping, home...etc.
Posted by
parentingasdkid
on 1st August 2010
at 23:18
Hi Amberlight,
Thanks for your comment, i'm glad people are reading my Q&A.
Posted by
Leanne
on 2nd August 2010
at 00:56
Hi Steve,
For what seemed like a long time Alistair would only talk with a few pre learnt sentences.. Please can I have.. I want.. I can see.. but more recently he is beginning to put together his own sentences. I have found that his speech is now developing more 'typically', still not age appropriate but he is definately forming his own phrases out of his word bank. If they aren't quite right then I model back the correct sentences in much the same way as I did with my 'typical' kids.
Only yesterday when he was doing his breakfast he said 'grapefruit juice all gone, Mummy get more shopping' , this morning it was 'pineapple juice all gone,I get more garage' (we have another fridge in the garage).
Recently when he tried to open the back door we had ' Stone stop door' and sure enough there was a big stone stopping the door from opening.
None of this development is through speech therapy or any real input from me.. it never ceases to amaze me just how fast he learns.
I compare his language to that of mine when I learnt french at school.. I could ask for certain things and kind of put sentences together but was definately not fluent.
Leanne - Community Champion
Posted by
Leanne
on 2nd August 2010
at 00:58
Hi,
What are your issues with PECS ??
We fell out with Alistairs NHS SALT on several occassions over PECS.
Leanne - Community Champion
Posted by
parentingasdkid
on 2nd August 2010
at 08:20
Hi Leanne,
Mmmm PECS - My issues aren't huge, but from small observations made when working with PECS and James. No system is perfect as 'one doesn't fit all' scenario is probably how I see PECS. Unfortunately, PECS seems the agreed system for Health professionals. I think PECS has it's place as part of communication tool, rather than relying on the system wholly. I suppose there isn't another system in proven competition.
When discussing PECS with other parents in our Early Childhood Intervention (ECI) group, i found some where using them everywhere and other parents minimal. I'm in the minimal camp, using as a reminder or enforcer. I think one issue is some parents aren't given enough information on using PECS or misuse hoping more is better. This is anecdotal from a small group, a survey may show a different opinion.
Toileting example - toilet training I had a number of issues - so using a PECS sequence of the images I was able show James (images made up by the good ECI people). So this worked as a learning aid. I was intrigued why he was struggling with toileting. My answer came when putting James in a nighttime nappy. James ran off and came back with his PECS system and was gestering at the nappy package showing the warning illustrations about disosing of nappies. One illustration showed a symbolised a toilet with a strikethough, indicating you shouldn't dispose down the toilet. I think James thought it meant, don't use the toilet.
Other concerns i have - Through speech therapy, James is becoming reliant on some of the PECS standard actions, such as ' I like and I don't like' ; he then modifies the end of the phrase by adding his preferences. I'm ok with this on a practical basis, but have a worry he might be shaping in a limited field of words. I'm looking at ways of mixing up his specific phrases, so there will be more freestyle talking in the future. I know James can be spontaneous, has he shows this with his brother; I can only get James laughing when i tickle him, his brother can make him laughing by saying or visually acting something - pretty intresting.
I also have a concern about shaping our ASD kids into a PECS world, while society has it's on set of visual signs which help, warn and guide us all. Also, it's worth noting the PECS system is not widespread in the community, only the common places such ECI service, schools, and homes. This may cause further communication issues when our kids are working to become more independent.
I would argue visual signs can be equally misleading as writing or verbal communication. I'd be interested to learn from people on the spectrum how they work with visual, textual and vocal communication. In particular which is their strongest or weakest communication, where the issues are and why?
Posted by
parentingasdkid
on 2nd August 2010
at 08:44
Hi Leanne,
I read your comment about your son modifying and initiating sentences - brilliant! You may also find he starts using some of your phrases (now you'll have to be careful if he's in ear shot). James is a repeater, but also stores some of my phrases and uses them in similar situations, especially ones which are over emphasising, "oh dear", "Oh no" and even "i need a little help here".
If you don't mind me asking - How old is Alistair?
It sounds like he is at the point naturally opting for words which suit the situation, which is good. he seems very logical, take stone stop, door, this is good example of him picking his words in order. He could of said the door, stop stone or stop stone door which conjures completely different scenarios.
I'm in a fortunate position, as my younger son (4) speaks fluently with emotion, joking and deception (oh yes!) giving me a comparison measurement on James progress. In the above scenario Thomas typically would of said "i can't open the door, who's put this stone here, it's in the way! Oh - I'll have to move it". James would be more similar to Alistair, labelling each object and putting in order.
On a funnier note Thomas has been moving into word morphing since James started toileting (about six months ago). "Pootastic" and "i need my poo -ups" on. The "pootastic" happend just after james successfully used the toilet for a poo, for the record i said fantastic James! Where Thom morphed to "thats pootastic James"!. Sometimes i think James logical straight forward words are best :)
Posted by
Elena - former Community Manager
on 2nd August 2010
at 10:42
This is so wonderful, thanks Steve! I also enjoyed reading your answers.
The list of tips that you gave is so sensible and useful! I also love your three words to describe autism - "a translucent mask".
It's amazing what a little time and perspective can do - I would have been furious for quite a while if my child had experienced something as you described with the child psychologist. Especially as regards the typo and the report obviously being drafted for someone else (how many others?!) originally. Uggh! It's great you have a sense of humour about it now. Glad to hear that it was an isolated incident though!
You mentioned in your introduction that "One difference i find in Australia, people are really supportive and helpful when they realise the situation." Do you find many differences in culture that seem to be working out better for you there?
Seems like you've really embraced Australia - how often to you get to make it back to the UK and do you get homesick?



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Posted by
Elena - former Community Manager
on 30th July 2010
at 16:14
I'm posting the August Q&A a bit early because the 1st falls over the weekend.
This month we'll be chatting with Stephen aka parentingasdkid. Steve has quite literally just joined Talk about Autism - at the time of writing this he hasn't even been a member for 4 days! I approached Steve due to a cancellation for the original Q&A for August, and he agreed to give this a shot. Steve, thank you so very much for being so brave at the start of your membership here!
As you may have seen in his introduction, Steve is a stay at home dad living in Australia. I'll let him tell you more about himself, but thought I'd mention that he's thinking of using this Q&A as part of his ongoing "Out of the comfort zone" project which you can read about on his blog here: http://parentingasdkids.com/category/asd-projects/
About the Member Q&A's:
In case you're new to Talk about Autism, the Monthly Member Q&A is a way for us to feature our members and get to know a bit more about them by asking them questions over a month. We start off by asking everyone the same questions, and then we open the floor to all of our members for further questioning. To read more about what the Monthly Member Q&A is, or if you are interested in being one of our featured members of the month, please visit this page to find our more: What are the Member Q&A's? ...And how you can participate!
Let's get started then. Steve, as always you are welcome to skip over any questions which you don't feel comfortable answering. And also, you can wait until August to get started.
1. What's your story - how are you involved with autism?
2. How did you find Talk about Autism and how long have you been with us? (Ha! Guess I've already answered that one, Steve - feel free to expand)
3. What is your top tip to pass on to someone whose child has recently been diagnosed with autism?
4. What has been one of the most difficult encounters you've had with regard to autism?
5. If you had to describe autism in no more than 3 words, what would they be?
6. This our Summer question: Do you have any Summer holiday suggestions or advice for people with autism?
And just for fun:
1. What would your dream holiday be?
2. If you got stranded on a desert island, what 3 things would you take?
3. Tell us about something that you really enjoy doing.
It's all yours, Steve!