can anyone help me understand the files system my son has???

My son has high-functioning autism and he told me in his head he has files and the files go in order from A-Z and when he needs to he looks through it to find what he needs then pulls out a piece of paper in his head that has writing on the top a picture in the middle and writing at the bottom. Can anyone explain this a bit better for me please. I found it wonderful that he has started to open up to me what is going on in his head but would love to know more.

Thank you Natalie x

Hi Natalie

I could be wrong here but sounds like your son is a visual learner and therefore when he recalls something from his memory he does so by visualising it on a piece of paper with the picture as the visual clue. I think this is really clever!!!

I think its really hard for us to know exactly what being on the spectrum is like for our kids, much the same as it will be very difficult for our kids to understand why we dont have to do these things. We dont really give a lot of thought to how we remember things; how we get them from our memory bank.

I find my son is a very deep thinker and as a result over the years I have become a little like him, although to nowhere near the same extent .... I find I get a headache if I try to go as far down the road of reasoning things out as my son does, but he needs to do this and I dont.

The bottom line is I think it is his version of our memory recall; he just needs that visual system and I think it is absolutely genius!!!

Josie - Community Champion

Hi Natalie

Another thought ..... did you use PECS with him when he was younger? This is perhaps where he got the idea from.

Josie - Community Champion

Yay for your son!

As someone on the autism spectrum with a highly visual mind, I have a fairly perfect memory for where things are, because my brain records the world in pictures and thinks in pictures. Finding words is SO slow, though. I can see a picture of what I'm thinking of, but finding a word that goes with it takes ages sometimes.

Hi Josie, he has only fairly recently been diagnosed in march this year so I don't think we used PECS. But not sure so much to learn about him my head is already full lol natalie x

Thanks, yes that is what Tom is like it takes him a while to process information and speech and he has only told me yesterday when he actually explained to me what it is like for him.
Natalie x

Hi Natalie,

I work in Speech & Language therapy and this sounds very much like the 'semantics' of his langauge and how he stores and retrieves it....The stores of langage are often described as a room of filing cabinets all for different catagories....so for example there would be a filing cabinet for food and each drawer would be sub-catagories of these like veg, fruit, hot, cold maybe even stored as food you like/dont like....

It sounds almost identical to this - the way Tom described finding words and often people on the autistic spectrum do see things visually and also store and file things slightly differently....my daughter stores in colours and things she likes and doesnt like as well as catagories and sub-catagories...there are some words still floating about in the room because there isnt enough 'meaning' attached to them yet so they are not stored....there are also some words which are stored incorrectly, so if she is trying to name a fruit (for example) she may go the the right drawer but the one she wants isnt there.....or she may go to the right filing cabinet but wrong drawer etc......

Its all a bit confusing, but a very very common thing with ASD as well as other differences...to help him 'speed up' if you like, when he learns a new topic and is introduced to new words, try and apply as much meaning as possible to that word and make it as visual as possible....so if it was an object, discuss what it is used for..where
you would find it, what it looks like etc....all those things attach onto the word in the filing cabinet and it will be filed in exactly the right way and much easier to access whenever he wants to use it.....

Sorry if I went on a bit!! This is a part of language I work on so much with children and it really facinates me!

Claire
Claire - Community Champion

Hello all,

Interesting analogy - I used to say that my head was like a massive filing cabinet and that sometimes it takes me a while to find the relevant information (which could be a visual metaphor for executive functioning difficulties?). Interestingly, I gave up on this one as it was not accurate enough. I would say that my brain is more like a web or a map now with interlocking locations and patterns. Although - both these analogies are visual intepretations to attempt to translate what seems to be happening to other people. I think that actually I am largely unaware of how my brain does what it does. I can become aware by conciously monitoring myself, yet this slows processes down, so sometimes I just let parts of my brain get on with it. The map analogy is more like my frontal lobe attempting to deliberately find a piece of information (like answering a question in a pub quiz). It is much more fun to see what my brain will come up with without really thinking about it (in the conscious sense)!

Interestingly, I was using the software package 'Dragon Naturally Speaking' the other day and the training tutprial asked me to read aloud a script about how people process language and how computers do. Funny thing was, I related more to the description of the computer.

Damian

HI Damian,

That made me giggle! When you said that its more fun to see what your brain comes up with....are you loving randomness? I ceratinly do!! My mind is so random most of the time unless I specifically focus it and it often makes me giggle the things I come up with!!

Claire - Community Champion