Research indicating diagnosis of autism by brain scan
Posted by
Josie Barnshaw
on 10th August 2010
at 23:17
Hi again
Found this BBC report with a short video clip on the same subject:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-10929032
Josie - Community Champion
Posted by
Jenny Phillips
on 11th August 2010
at 10:20
I saw this too this morning ont he front page of the FT. The researchers reckon the new brain scan is 90% effective at diagnosing autism in adults, by picking up on differences in the shape of the brain.
I wondered what those of you who are parents or who are on the spectrum yourselves thought about this idea. At the moment, diagnosis is based on observation of behaviours by experts and opinions can sometimes vary between experts. Would it help, therefore to have a method like this which is quicker, cheaper and perhaps less subjective? Or would we in fact risk losing something essential in the diagnositc process if we cease to consult behavioural experts?
How would you feel if you or your child had been offered a brain scan routinely as part of the diagnostic process?
Jenny Phillips
Training and Events Coordinator
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Posted by
Leanne
on 11th August 2010
at 11:24
Hi,
I would absolutely love it ,so would my husband who thinks he is on the spectrum.
I think it would help to clarify exactly which parts have been affected and which development areas are going to be impacted.. I believe it would then lead to a much more effective and individualised development plan instead of assuming one thing would fit all people on the spectrum.
Leanne - Community Champion
Posted by
Elena - former Community Manager
on 11th August 2010
at 16:33
Thanks for posting this Josie. It's been the talk of the town all day!
Posted by
Elena - former Community Manager
on 11th August 2010
at 17:03
By the way, there is now a quick survey about this which you can find on the home page of this website, or by clicking the link below:
http://www.talkaboutautism.org.uk/poll/your-reaction-new-brain-scan-diagnose-autism
Posted by
Snowdrop
on 11th August 2010
at 20:30
I think anything like this is good, at least that way peoples diagnosis can be made on actual test results like other conditions and not simply on professionals opinions, Dyl's case was very open & shut & everyone was soooooooooo sure he was on the spectrum but this sort of testing I would imagine would really help more borderline cases get a diagnosis to hopefully mean they then can start accessing the support they need.
Tracy - Community Champion
Posted by
damo73
on 11th August 2010
at 20:39
Hello all,
It seems the media are slightly exaggerating as usual! The work thus far is very interesting, yet it is based solely on adult males from what I have heard - so they still have a long way to go with the research.
Jenny - I think the method would become a diagnostic tool rather than taking over. It would not be any quicker, it would still have a subjective and interpretive element (although that is not a bad thing), and certainly would not be cheaper. It would however potentially put people under stress though - you have to be quite still for a long time and sometimes young people are sedated in order to go through the process (which raises ethical concerns). I don't think that there are many actual 'behavioural experts' that really exist (perhaps Derron Brown - lol!) - anyway, you will never lose the doctor from the diagnosis for something like this.
It certainly should not be routine (for the above ethical concerns) - I think it will yield interesting findings as research though and may help as a diagnostic aid in future.
Leanne's point is an interesting one - although one would only get a generalised idea to make a plan with - although some idea could be said to be better than no idea - one would have to careful not to impose one-size-fits-all models to sub-categories etc.
On Monday I am going up to London for some 'Cognitive tests' - I am still waiting for the call for a brain scan - although I expect there is a long waiting list - I think it would be personally interesting at least (and I can volunteer for the research etc. - i.e. not routine, although routinely offered).
Damian - Community Champion
Posted by
michaelz
on 12th August 2010
at 13:12
adult males?
that's me - i may try and get in touch with whoever's doing the scans (haven't read all the news reports yet) to see if i can volunteer.
the only bit that concerns me from what i heard on the radio is "90% accuracy".
what does this mean - 10% autists diagnosed as non-autistic; 10% non-autists diagnosed as autists; 10% unsure - or a mixture of all three?
Posted by
Elena - former Community Manager
on 12th August 2010
at 13:13
Just came across this article on The Guardian:
Autism diagnosis is only the first step
The study showing autism may be diagnosed with a brain scan is good news – but support and services are needed too
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/12/autism-breakthrough-only-first-step
Posted by
amberlight
on 12th August 2010
at 15:17
Some parents are suggesting that it'll be hell trying to get their child to have a brain scan in the first place - wonder how they will tackle that? Sedation?
I'm really nervous of MRI scanners, having had a few scans in the past.
Ann - Community Champion



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Posted by
Josie Barnshaw
on 10th August 2010
at 23:01
Another interesting link posted to my fb wall this evening.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/aug/10/autism-brain-scan
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